{"id":8934,"date":"2012-06-19T11:53:03","date_gmt":"2012-06-19T15:53:03","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blogs.discovermagazine.com\/collideascape\/?p=8934"},"modified":"2012-06-19T11:53:03","modified_gmt":"2012-06-19T15:53:03","slug":"no-denying-the-implied-context-for-climate-denier","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.keithkloor.com\/?p=8934","title":{"rendered":"No Denying the Implied Context for Climate Denier"},"content":{"rendered":"

Zolpidem Buy Online My previous post<\/a> on Nature’s <\/em>use of “denier” in a recently published paper has triggered a lively comment thread, including this question to me:<\/p>\n

Since you obviously object to the\u00a0usefulness<\/em>\u00a0of the term “\u02dcdenier’, would you care to comment on its\u00a0appropriateness<\/em>\u00a0after considering\u00a0Micha Tomkiewicz<\/a>“\u02dcs thoughts?<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

Order Tramadol Online This is in reference to several provocative blog posts by a Holocaust survivor (and physics professor) who, several months ago,\u00a0asked:<\/a><\/p>\n

But what about climate change deniers? Can we really compare the two, the Holocaust and climate change? Does this have anything to do with science?<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

Buy Zopiclone 7.5 Mg Online Shortly after this appeared, I did have some thoughts on the heated debate over the meaning of climate “denier,” and cobbled them together in a post for another site. For reasons that I won’t divulge (it’s complicated), that post never appeared. But now seems like a good time to put it up here:<\/p>\n

Buy Zanaflex Online Without Prescription A frequent lament of climate campaigners is that “disinformation”\u009d from contrarians and ideologues opposed to any action on global warming continues to muddy the larger public conversation.\u00a0 The stalled politics (in the U.S. and several other countries) frustrates many who regard climate change as an existential threat to future generations. Much of their ire, rightly or wrongly, is often directed at fossil fuel interests, conservative think tanks, and climate skeptics.<\/p>\n

So it’s not surprising that a recent \u00a0forum<\/a>\u00a0at Penn State University was devoted to the climate “disinformation campaign.”\u009d The first speaker, Donald Brown, a climate ethicist at Penn State, argued that the last 25 years of potential action have been lost because of deliberate “disinformation”\u009d from the aforementioned. The continuation of such tactics led Brown to suggest:<\/p>\n

https://dinoeliadis.com/schedule-time/ I think we should encourage a conversation whether this is some kind of new crime against humanity. It is really evil stuff. It is nasty.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

https://dentalprovidence.com/team/ Predictably, this lit up<\/a>\u00a0various precincts of the climate blogosphere. Never mind that Brown was essentially repeating something he’d already written<\/a> http://masterfacilitator.com/compactcoaching/ \u00a0<\/strong>a few years earlier.<\/p>\n

There are others who want to move the climate conversation on to this same highly charged moral terrain. For instance, just weeks after the Penn State forum, Micha Tomkiewicz, a Brooklyn college physics professor, triggered a firestorm after he explicitly associated\u00a0<\/a>\u00a0denial of climate change with denial of the Holocaust. Most (if not all) climate commentators studiously avoid making such a direct comparison. Some shy away from using the “denier”\u009d label altogether because of the connotation.<\/p>\n

https://prosthodontistlasvegas.com/image-credits/ What was especially striking about Tomkiewicz’s use of it is his personal history: He is a Holocaust survivor. He invoked his personal history while also saying that global warming today might result in the “potential genocide of billions of people.”\u009d Thus, denial of climate change, he argued, was akin to “a self-inflicted genocide.”\u009d<\/p>\n

In a follow-up post<\/a>\u00a0Tomkiewicz elaborated:<\/p>\n

https://raceflowdevelopment.com/about-rfd/ But, of course, I am using the term “denier”\u009d to make a point.\u00a0 In 1933, very few people believed that Hitler would seriously try to accomplish what he preached and almost no one could imagine the consequences of his deadly reign.\u00a0 Although there was evidence available “\u201c Hitler was clear about what he wanted to do in Mein Kampf “\u201c why did people not pay attention?\u00a0 These “deniers”\u009d might as well have been called skeptics in their day.<\/p>\n

Ambien No Prescription I make my “climate change denier”\u009d claim for one reason.\u00a0 It’s easy today to teach students to condemn the Holocaust, but it’s much more difficult to teach them how to try to prevent future genocides.\u00a0 There are different kinds of genocides and they don’t repeat themselves; they come to us in different ways.\u00a0 I am not suggesting that the Holocaust is just like climate change.\u00a0 But what I am suggesting is that it’s hard to see a genocide “\u201c any genocide “\u201c coming.\u00a0 The future is hard to predict, but we can see this one coming.\u00a0 This genocide is of our own making, and it will effect everyone, not just one group or country.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

https://rgprincipal.com/home/ This line of reasoning takes climate rhetoric to a new level. Judging by the varied responses<\/a>\u00a0from across the environment\/climate-concerned spectrum, most people are not going there. [Perhaps the editors at Nature should take note<\/em>.]<\/p>\n

Others reject the validity of the moral equivalence frame altogether. Mark Hoofnagle at his Denialism blog (his subject is the phenomena of denial as it relates to all science-related issues) wrote<\/a>:<\/p>\n

I do not think that a moral comparison need be made between holocaust deniers and climate change denialists. The only comparison needed is between their tactics, which are dishonest and intellectually bankrupt”\u00a6The comparison between climate denialists and other denialists should come from the fact that they argue the exact same way, and it should end there. Holocaust denial and climate change denial share many features, as does evolution denialism, HIV\/AIDS denialism, vaccine crankery, 9\/11 trutherism etc., that is they use rhetorical tricks to deny a body of evidence that contradicts an ideological position.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

This most recent clash over labels and Holocaust\/climate change analogies is reminiscent of the controversy stirred up by NASA climate scientist James Hansen’s provocative metaphorical statement<\/a>\u00a0in 2007:<\/p>\n

http://www.amandasatoz.com/?page_id=1322 If we cannot stop the building of more coal-fired power plants, those coal trains will be death trains “\u201d no less gruesome than if they were boxcars headed to crematoria, loaded with uncountable irreplaceable species.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

As Andrew Revkin noted<\/a>\u00a0 \u00a0<\/strong>at the time, scientists and environmental campaigners have for several decades “been on an ongoing quest for imagery and analogies sufficiently jarring to focus public attention on global warming.”\u009d<\/p>\n

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Buy Amoxicillin Online Without Prescription My previous post on Nature’s use of “denier” in a recently published paper has triggered a lively comment thread, including this question to me: Since you obviously object to the\u00a0usefulness\u00a0of the term “\u02dcdenier’, would you care to comment on its\u00a0appropriateness\u00a0after considering\u00a0Micha Tomkiewicz“\u02dcs thoughts? This is in reference to several provocative blog posts by a Holocaust… Continue Reading…<\/a><\/span><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":14,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[2553,2554],"tags":[835,837],"class_list":["post-8934","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-climate-change","category-climate-communication","tag-climate-change","tag-climate-communication"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.keithkloor.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/8934","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.keithkloor.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.keithkloor.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.keithkloor.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/14"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.keithkloor.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=8934"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.keithkloor.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/8934\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.keithkloor.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=8934"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.keithkloor.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=8934"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.keithkloor.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=8934"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}