{"id":8336,"date":"2012-03-15T11:00:56","date_gmt":"2012-03-15T15:00:56","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blogs.discovermagazine.com\/collideascape\/?p=8336"},"modified":"2012-03-15T11:00:56","modified_gmt":"2012-03-15T15:00:56","slug":"why-the-climate-debate-is-on-a-road-to-nowhere","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.keithkloor.com\/?p=8336","title":{"rendered":"Why the Climate Debate is on a Road to Nowhere"},"content":{"rendered":"<p> 
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