{"id":4973,"date":"2011-02-24T13:35:25","date_gmt":"2011-02-24T18:35:25","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blogs.discovermagazine.com\/collideascape\/?p=4973"},"modified":"2011-02-24T13:35:25","modified_gmt":"2011-02-24T18:35:25","slug":"a-climate-claim-in-tatters","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.keithkloor.com\/?p=4973","title":{"rendered":"A Climate Claim in Tatters"},"content":{"rendered":"<p> 
<a href="https://disneycruisinggroup.com/planning/">Order Soma Online</a> The evolution of <a href=\"http:\/\/judithcurry.com\/\" target=\"_blank\">Judith Curry<\/a>, the outspoken Georgia Tech climate scientist, continues. Her emergence in the last few years as a persistent\u00a0 critic of the climate science community can be marked by distinct stages.<\/p>\n<p> 
<a href="https://theroyalstagproperties.com/contact-5/">https://theroyalstagproperties.com/contact-5/</a> At first, in the immediate aftermath of <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Climatic_Research_Unit_email_controversy\" target=\"_blank\">Climategate<\/a>, Curry&#8217;s critiques <a href=\"http:\/\/camirror.wordpress.com\/2009\/11\/22\/curry-on-the-credibility-of-climate-research\/\" target=\"_blank\">focused<\/a> on &#8220;climate tribalism&#8221; and &#8220;transparency&#8221; issues. By April of 2010, she had <a href=\"http:\/\/blogs.discovermagazine.com\/2010\/04\/23\/an-inconvenient-provocateur\/\" target=\"_blank\">expanded<\/a> her criticism to include the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.ipcc.ch\/\" target=\"_blank\">Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change<\/a> (IPCC), suggesting it was rife with &#8220;corruptions&#8221; due to bad practices and the behavior of individual scientists. Last December, her transformation from consensus-believing insider to dissenting outsider was cemented in a Scientific American <a href=\"http:\/\/www.scientificamerican.com\/article.cfm?id=climate-heretic\" target=\"_blank\">profile<\/a>, which called her a &#8220;climate heretic.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p> 
<a href="https://andiroberts.com/resourcehub/">https://andiroberts.com/resourcehub/</a> All along, Curry has maintained that one of her goals is to help build bridges between the vociferous climate skeptic camp and the mainstream climate science community. But Curry&#8217;s recent trajectory has some of the cooler heads <a href=\"http:\/\/ourchangingclimate.wordpress.com\/2010\/11\/05\/judith-curry-building-bridges-burning-bridges\/\" target=\"_blank\">wondering<\/a> if she&#8217;s become just another antagonist in the the fractious climate debate.<\/p>\n<p> 
<a href="https://forgive123.com/emotional-healing/"></a> This week she seems to have reinforced that belief with a <a href=\"http:\/\/judithcurry.com\/2011\/02\/22\/hiding-the-decline\/\" target=\"_blank\">post<\/a> that accuses climate scientists of being &#8220;dishonest&#8221; in the way they presented data in an IPPC report. NASA&#8217;s <a href=\"http:\/\/www.giss.nasa.gov\/staff\/gschmidt\/\" target=\"_blank\">Gavin Schmidt<\/a> quickly <a href=\"http:\/\/judithcurry.com\/2011\/02\/22\/hiding-the-decline\/#comment-45769\" target=\"_blank\">responded<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p> 
<a href="https://dinoeliadis.com/schedule-time/"></a> You have gone significantly over the line with this post. Accusations of  dishonesty are way beyond a difference of opinion on how a graph should  be displayed.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p> 
<a href="http://masterfacilitator.com/salesfacilitation/">Buy Online Soma</a> A caustic exchange between Curry and Schmidt ensued, which Joe Romm reproduces <a href=\"http:\/\/climateprogress.org\/2011\/02\/23\/best-climate-joke-hockey-stick-curry-muller\/\" target=\"_blank\">here<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p> 
<a href="https://forgive123.com/contact/">https://forgive123.com/contact/</a> Now, what interests me most about this latest contretemps is Curry&#8217;s apparent larger rationale for her escalating (and harsher?) drumbeat of criticism. The justification is inferred in a <a href=\"http:\/\/judithcurry.com\/2011\/02\/22\/hiding-the-decline\/#comment-46472\" target=\"_blank\">response<\/a> to Bart Verheggen on the thread of that explosive post, in which she claims that<\/p>\n<blockquote><p> 
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<a href="https://dentalprovidence.com/dentures/"></a> Now just because a <a href=\"http:\/\/www.tnr.com\/blog\/jonathan-chait\/79271\/republicans-vs-climate-science\" target=\"_blank\">new breed of U.S. Republicans<\/a> uses this affair to reinforce their own biases doesn&#8217;t mean the credibility of climate science is in tatters. Same with conservative-leaning TV meteorologists, who seem unduly <a href=\"http:\/\/content.usatoday.com\/communities\/sciencefair\/post\/2011\/02\/poll-climate-emails-spurred-weathermen-warming-doubts\/1\" target=\"_blank\">influenced<\/a> by Climategate.<\/p>\n<p> 
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<a href="https://castlehomecomfort.com/air-conditioning/"></a> First,  we found no decline in Americans&#8217; trust in environmental  scientists:  71 percent of respondents said they trust these scientists a  moderate  amount, a lot or completely, a figure that was 68 percent in  2008 and  70 percent in 2009. Only 9 percent said they knew about the  East Anglia  e-mail messages and believed they indicated that climate  scientists  should not be trusted, and only 13 percent of respondents  said so about  the I.P.C.C. reports&#8217; alleged flaws.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p> 
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<a href="http://www.amandasatoz.com/?page_id=1454">http://www.amandasatoz.com/?page_id=1454</a> Last June, a <a href=\"http:\/\/www.sciencedaily.com\/releases\/2010\/06\/100608151052.htm\" target=\"_blank\">similar poll<\/a> in the U.S. also found that<\/p>\n<blockquote><p> 
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