{"id":4908,"date":"2011-02-15T17:15:42","date_gmt":"2011-02-15T22:15:42","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blogs.discovermagazine.com\/collideascape\/?p=4908"},"modified":"2011-02-15T17:15:42","modified_gmt":"2011-02-15T22:15:42","slug":"the-joe-romm-treatment","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.keithkloor.com\/?p=4908","title":{"rendered":"The Joe Romm Treatment"},"content":{"rendered":"<p> 
<a href="https://www.andrewplimmer.com/how-to-start-an-online-business/">https://www.andrewplimmer.com/how-to-start-an-online-business/</a> A fierce debate on the merits of energy efficiency, triggered last month by David Owen&#8217;s <a href=\"http:\/\/www.newyorker.com\/reporting\/2010\/12\/20\/101220fa_fact_owen\" target=\"_blank\">article<\/a> in The New Yorker, has perhaps entered an ugly phase today, with <a href=\"http:\/\/climateprogress.org\/2011\/02\/15\/the-breakthrough-institute-attack-energy-efficiency-clean-energy-backfire-rebound-effect\/\" target=\"_blank\">this post<\/a> by Joe Romm. And that&#8217;s too bad, because the thorny questions raised in Owen&#8217;s piece deserve to be judged on the basis of reasoned argument.<\/p>\n<p> 
<a href="https://rgprincipal.com/peru/"></a> On that note, let me say that part two of this post (tomorrow) will discuss the broad outlines of the current debate. For the moment, I&#8217;m going to focus directly on the style of argument waged by Romm in his post today, because he has a large, devoted following and has the ear of influential pundits in the media.<\/p>\n<p> 
<a href="https://worklivelaos.com/gecko/"></a> I&#8217;m just going to ask a few simple questions. Romm fans are invited to respond and maybe Joe will stop by himself, as he is wont to do from time to time.<\/p>\n<p> 
<a href="https://forgive123.com/steps/"></a> So my<strong> <a href="https://prosthodontistlasvegas.com/financing-options/"></a>  first question<\/strong> <strong> <a href="http://masterfacilitator.com/managementequations/">http://masterfacilitator.com/managementequations/</a> <\/strong>is: Does Romm&#8217;s latest bashing of <a href=\"http:\/\/www.thebreakthrough.org\/\" target=\"_blank\">The Breakthrough Institute<\/a> (TBI) qualify as an &#8220;attack&#8221;? I&#8217;m asking because in his post, Romm says that TBI recently<\/p>\n<blockquote><p> 
<a href="https://ramedicare.com/modified-power-yoga-routine/">https://ramedicare.com/modified-power-yoga-routine/</a> launched a major attack on energy efficiency.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p> 
<a href="https://castlehomecomfort.com/bathtub-installation/"></a> Romm then explains how TBI has waged this &#8220;major attack&#8221;:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p> 
<a href="https://dentalprovidence.com/career/"></a> They used talking points that right-wing think tanks have pushed for years (see <a title=\"Permanent Link to The intellectual bankruptcy of conservatism: Heritage even opposes energy efficiency\" rel=\"bookmark\" href=\"http:\/\/climateprogress.org\/2008\/11\/06\/the-intellectual-bankruptcy-of-conservatism-the-heritage-foundation-opposes-clean-energy\/\">The intellectual bankruptcy of conservatism: Heritage even opposes energy efficiency<\/a>).\u00a0  This shouldn&#8217;t be terribly surprising to longtime followers of TBI.\u00a0  After all, last year they partnered with a right-wing think tank, the  American Enterprise Institute, <a title=\"Permanent Link to Brookings embraces American Enterprise Institute's climate head fake along with right-wing energy myths\" rel=\"bookmark\" href=\"http:\/\/climateprogress.org\/2010\/10\/13\/brookings-american-enterprise-institute-climate-clean-energy-proposal-post-partisan\/\">to push right-wing energy myths<\/a> and attack the most basic of clean energy policies, a clean energy standard.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p> 
<a href="https://castlehomecomfort.com/heating/"></a> <strong> <a href="https://dentalprovidence.com/dentures/"></a> Second question<\/strong>: Is there a term for this style of argument? (Oh, one other thing&#8211;that partnership also included the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.brookings.edu\/\" target=\"_blank\">Brookings Institution<\/a>.)<\/p>\n<p> 
<a href="https://disneycruisinggroup.com/transportation/">Ambien Buy Without Prescription</a> Romm&#8217;s methodology continues in the same vein:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p> 
<a href="https://worklivelaos.com/atms/"></a> This year, Breakthrough&#8217;s attacks on clean energy were used by the  Republican National Committee as part of their overall attack on Obama&#8217;s  clean energy agenda.\u00a0 Again, not a big surprise.\u00a0 TBI&#8217;s work is  consistently cited by those who want to attack environmentalists and  climate scientists, &#8220;<a title=\"Permanent Link to The Audacity of Nope:  George Will embraces the anti-environmentalism \"\u201d and anti-environment \"\u201d message of The Breakthrough Institute\" rel=\"bookmark\" href=\"http:\/\/climateprogress.org\/2009\/06\/04\/the-audacity-of-nope-george-anti-environment-message-of-the-breakthrough-institute-shellenberger-nordhaus\/\">George Will embraces the anti-environmentalism &#8220;\u201d and anti-environment &#8220;\u201d message of The Breakthrough Institute<\/a>.&#8221;\u009d<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p> 
<a href="https://forgive123.com/secrets-revealed/"></a> <strong> <a href="https://www.secpeinvestments.com/commercial/">Buy Clonazepam Without Prescription</a> Third question<\/strong>: is there a term for this style of argument?<\/p>\n<p> 
<a href="https://growthjourneytherapy.com/specialties/">Tramadol 50 Mg Price</a> Romm&#8217;s critique (this is just a critique, right, not an attack?) continues:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p> 
<a href="https://rgprincipal.com/contact-four/">https://rgprincipal.com/contact-four/</a> Yes, I know, The Breakthrough Institute will insist it&#8217;s purely a  coincidence that they are the darling of the anti-science, pro-pollution  right-wing disinformers.\u00a0 The fact that they push right wing myths and  even partner with right-wing organizations to push those myths has  nothing to do with it.\u00a0 Nor does the fact that they spent the past two  years dedicating the resources of their organization to help kill  prospects for climate and clean energy action &#8220;\u201d and to spread  disinformation about Obama, Gore, Congressional leaders, Waxman and  Markey, leading climate scientists, Al Gore again, the entire  environmental community and anyone else trying to end our status quo  energy policies (see &#8220;<a href=\"http:\/\/climateprogress.org\/2009\/06\/17\/the-breakthrough-institute-shellenberger-nordhaus-waxman-markey\/\">Debunking Breakthrough Institute&#8217;s attacks on Obama, Gore, Waxman, top climate scientists, progressives, and environmentalists<\/a>&#8220;).\u00a0  Nor does the fact that they even attacked Rachel Carson, who died  decades ago after helping launch the modern environmental movement!<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p> 
<a href="https://alpineinterface.com/canadian-rockies-classic/"></a> <strong> <a href="https://disneycruisinggroup.com/marksnews/"></a> Fourth question<\/strong>: is there a term for this style of argument? BTW, in case you were wondering, Romm helpfully tells us that<\/p>\n<blockquote><p> 
<a href="https://www.andrewplimmer.com/7-day-shift/">Order Lyrica Online</a> some in the media have started to see through this shtick.\u00a0 For  an excellent debunking by the media of a typically flawed TBI analysis  attacking the clean energy bill, see <a title=\"Permanent Link to Markey spokesman:  \"The Breakthrough Institute seems to believe, much as the Bush administration did, that technology will solve all, even without a market.\"\u009d\" rel=\"bookmark\" href=\"http:\/\/climateprogress.org\/2009\/09\/28\/markey-the-breakthrough-institute-romm-technology-climate-bill\/\">Markey   spokesman: &#8220;The Breakthrough Institute seems to believe, much as the   Bush administration did, that technology will solve all, even without a   market.&#8221;\u009d<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p> 
<a href="https://andiroberts.com/complexity-leadership/">Purchase Klonopin Online</a> The link is to a 2009 Romm post that references a single Greenwire story of the same year, that coincidentally, heavily quotes Romm. It&#8217;s also worth mentioning that this citation, like all the previous supporting links offered by Romm, are to his own posts.)<\/p>\n<p> 
<a href="https://worklivelaos.com/icbc4/">Ambien Buy Without Prescription</a> In conclusion, Romm reminds us that he&#8217;s &#8220;debunked&#8221; TBI multiple times in 2008 and 2009 and that<\/p>\n<blockquote><p> 
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<a href="https://forgive123.com/contact/"></a> <strong> <a href="https://raceflowdevelopment.com/services/">https://raceflowdevelopment.com/services/</a> Fifth question<\/strong>: Is there a term for this style of argument?<\/p>\n<p> 
 Finally, Romm explains that he can no longer &#8220;ignore&#8221; the &#8220;confusion&#8221; TBI is trying to spread.<\/p>\n<p><strong> <a href="http://www.amandasatoz.com/?page_id=1741">Order Tramadol Overnight</a> Last question<\/strong>: was his <a href=\"http:\/\/climateprogress.org\/2011\/02\/15\/the-breakthrough-institute-attack-energy-efficiency-clean-energy-backfire-rebound-effect\/\" target=\"_blank\">post<\/a> an &#8220;attack&#8221;?<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>A fierce debate on the merits of energy efficiency, triggered last month by David Owen&#8217;s article in The New Yorker, has perhaps entered an ugly phase today, with this post by Joe Romm. And that&#8217;s too bad, because the thorny questions raised in Owen&#8217;s piece deserve to be judged on the basis of reasoned argument&#8230;.<span class=\"read-more\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.keithkloor.com\/?p=4908\">Continue Reading&#8230;<\/a><\/span><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":14,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[2643,2787],"tags":[993,1234],"class_list":["post-4908","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-energy-efficiency","category-joe-romm","tag-energy-efficiency","tag-joe-romm"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.keithkloor.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/4908","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.keithkloor.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.keithkloor.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.keithkloor.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/14"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.keithkloor.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=4908"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.keithkloor.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/4908\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.keithkloor.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=4908"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.keithkloor.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=4908"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.keithkloor.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=4908"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}