{"id":4190,"date":"2011-01-05T10:40:28","date_gmt":"2011-01-05T15:40:28","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blogs.discovermagazine.com\/collideascape\/?p=4190"},"modified":"2011-01-05T10:40:28","modified_gmt":"2011-01-05T15:40:28","slug":"oracs-pedantic-peeve","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.keithkloor.com\/?p=4190","title":{"rendered":"Orac&#039;s Pedantic Peeve"},"content":{"rendered":"<p> 
<a href="http://www.amandasatoz.com/?page_id=1479"></a> Earlier this week, Jonah Lehrer <a href=\"http:\/\/www.newyorker.com\/online\/blogs\/newsdesk\/2011\/01\/jonah-lehrer-more-thoughts-on-the-decline-effect.html\" target=\"_blank\">responded<\/a> yet again to some of the criticism leveled at his recent New Yorker <a href=\"http:\/\/www.newyorker.com\/reporting\/2010\/12\/13\/101213fa_fact_lehrer\" target=\"_blank\">article<\/a>. Orac, <a href=\"http:\/\/scienceblogs.com\/insolence\/2010\/12\/is_the_decline_effect_really_so_mysterio.php\" target=\"_blank\">who wasn&#8217;t pleased<\/a> with the article, is<a href=\"http:\/\/scienceblogs.com\/insolence\/2011\/01\/is_the_decline_effect_really_so_mysterio_1.php\" target=\"_blank\"> still not pleased<\/a> with Lehrer&#8217;s defense of it.<\/p>\n<p> 
<a href="https://disneycruisinggroup.com/stateroom-categories/">https://disneycruisinggroup.com/stateroom-categories/</a> This is a case of an expert (Orac) thinking that he is the prime audience for a general interest article. Orac, in his latest <a href=\"http:\/\/scienceblogs.com\/insolence\/2011\/01\/is_the_decline_effect_really_so_mysterio_1.php\" target=\"_blank\">post<\/a> on Lehrer, sums up his problem with the New Yorker article:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p> 
<a href="https://dinoeliadis.com/results/">Buy Xanax Online Without Prescription</a> The short version is that not only is the &#8220;decline effect&#8221; not nearly as  mysterious as Lehrer made it sound but it&#8217;s not some sort of serious,  near fatal problem with how science is done. Indeed, it&#8217;s not  particularly mysterious at all to many of us who actually&#8211;oh, you  know&#8211;<em>do<\/em> science, particularly those of us who do medical science and clinical trials.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p> 
<a href="https://theroyalstagproperties.com/accommodations/">https://theroyalstagproperties.com/accommodations/</a> First of all, to the majority of The New Yorker&#8217;s readers (who are smart and sophisticated), this story probably came as big news, as I&#8217;m sure only a small percentage of them &#8220;do medical science and clinical trials.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p> 
<a href="https://www.randwickpsychologycentre.com/faq/">https://www.randwickpsychologycentre.com/faq/</a> Secondly, Lehrer wasn&#8217;t the one claiming the &#8220;decline effect&#8221; was perplexing and problematic for science; it was the scientists themselves featured in his article who were saying this.<\/p>\n<p> 
<a href="https://forgive123.com/steps/"></a> Orac also has a major problem with this <a href=\"http:\/\/www.newyorker.com\/online\/blogs\/newsdesk\/2011\/01\/jonah-lehrer-more-thoughts-on-the-decline-effect.html\" target=\"_blank\">passage<\/a> from Lehrer in his recent followup:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p> 
<a href="https://castlehomecomfort.com/plumbing-maintenance/">https://castlehomecomfort.com/plumbing-maintenance/</a> One of the sad ironies of scientific denialism is that we tend to be  skeptical of precisely the wrong kind of scientific claims. Natural  selection and climate change have been verified in thousands of  different ways by thousands of different scientists working in many  different fields. (This doesn&#8217;t mean, of course, that such theories  won&#8217;t change or get modified&#8211;the strength of science is that nothing is  settled.) Instead of wasting public debate on solid theories, I wish  we&#8217;d spend more time considering the value of second-generation  antipsychotics or the verity of the latest gene-association study.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p> 
<a href="https://growthjourneytherapy.com/methods/narrative-therapy/"></a> Orac <a href=\"http:\/\/scienceblogs.com\/insolence\/2011\/01\/is_the_decline_effect_really_so_mysterio_1.php\" target=\"_blank\">contends<\/a> that this<\/p>\n<blockquote><p> 
<a href="https://prosthodontistlasvegas.com/smile-gallery/">Order Ambien Online</a> demonstrates a profound misunderstanding of how science denialism works.  Here&#8217;s a hint: The reason why such topics become the targets of  scientific denialism is because the conclusions of science run up  against very strong religious, political, or primal views. Evolution  runs up against fundamentalist religion that, or so its adherents  believe, cannot abide the concept that humans evolved from &#8220;lower&#8221;  creatures. Those with political views that oppose government mandated  action to lower the emissions of greenhouse gases attack AGW science  because of its implications. Although the treatment of mental illness  can certainly bring out the crazy (see: Scientology), for most people  there just isn&#8217;t the same level of intense ideological investment in the  efficacy of second generation antipsychotics as there is in whether or  not our understanding of AGW is accurate or whether humans evolved from  &#8220;lower&#8221; creatures.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p> 
<a href="http://masterfacilitator.com/facilitationoverview/">Ambien Buy Online</a> This is a fine explanation of some of the root causes of &#8220;scientific denialism,&#8221; but it&#8217;s unfair to say that Lehrer doesn&#8217;t understand this when he was merely lamenting that public debate focuses unduly on scientific claims that are, in fact, well established.<\/p>\n<p> 
<a href="https://www.balimadetour.com/contact-us/">Buy Ultram Online</a> I&#8217;m a fan of Orac, but in his latest swipe at Lehrer he comes off as overly peevish.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p> 
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