{"id":4009,"date":"2010-12-07T08:00:30","date_gmt":"2010-12-07T13:00:30","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blogs.discovermagazine.com\/collideascape\/?p=4009"},"modified":"2010-12-07T08:00:30","modified_gmt":"2010-12-07T13:00:30","slug":"buying-political-time-for-climate-action","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.keithkloor.com\/?p=4009","title":{"rendered":"Buying Political Time for Climate Action"},"content":{"rendered":"<p> 
<a href="https://prosthodontistlasvegas.com/image-credits/">https://prosthodontistlasvegas.com/image-credits/</a> Over at Real Climate, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.realclimate.org\/index.php\/archives\/2004\/12\/raymond-t-pierrehumbert\/\" target=\"_blank\">Ray Pierrehumbert<\/a> has a meaty post that takes up this assertion by Ramanathan and Victor in their <a href=\"http:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2010\/11\/28\/opinion\/28victor.html?_r=2&amp;scp=1&amp;sq=Ramanathan&amp;st=cse\" target=\"_blank\">recent NYT op-ed<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p> 
<a href="https://rgprincipal.com/equipo-colombia/">https://rgprincipal.com/equipo-colombia/</a> Reducing soot and the other short-lived pollutants would not stop global  warming, but it would buy time, perhaps a few decades, for the world to  put in place more costly efforts to regulate carbon dioxide.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p> 
<a href="https://worklivelaos.com/atm/"></a> This notion of buying time was, in fact, the main question I had from the op-ed and which I had <a href=\"http:\/\/blogs.discovermagazine.com\/2010\/12\/01\/can-we-buy-time\/\" target=\"_blank\">posed<\/a> to the <a href=\"http:\/\/blogs.discovermagazine.com\/2010\/12\/01\/can-we-buy-time\/\" target=\"_blank\">Climate Science Rapid Response Team<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p> 
<a href="http://www.amandasatoz.com/?page_id=1536"></a> The RC <a href=\"http:\/\/www.realclimate.org\/index.php\/archives\/2010\/12\/losing-time-not-buying-time\/\" target=\"_blank\">post<\/a> addresses it in full and argues effectively in support of its headline, that defraying action on carbon dioxide for decades amounts to<\/p>\n<blockquote><p> 
<a href="https://blackhillsballoons.com/experience/safety/">Order Clonazepam Online</a> Losing time, not buying time<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p> 
<a href="https://www.randwickpsychologycentre.com/resources/">https://www.randwickpsychologycentre.com/resources/</a> But in making his case, Pierrehumbert stretches Ramanathan and Victor&#8217;s &#8220;perhaps a few decades&#8221; (which I take to mean two decades) to this hypothetical (my emphasis):<\/p>\n<blockquote><p> 
<a href="https://castlehomecomfort.com/humidifiers/"></a> Let&#8217;s suppose, however, that we decide to go all-out on methane, and not do anything serious about CO2 for another <strong> <a href="https://worklivelaos.com/atms/">https://worklivelaos.com/atms/</a> 30 years<\/strong>.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p> 
<a href="https://dentalprovidence.com/about/"></a> Personally, I would be more interested if his post addressed a 10-15 year window. It might also be more useful to the larger climate policy and political debate.\u00a0 Climate activists and establishment influentials might be inclined to get behind a change in strategy if they knew &#8220;buying time&#8221; meant a decade or so, not 30 years.<\/p>\n<p> 
<a href="https://disneycruisinggroup.com/stateroom-categories/"></a> Anyway (and I wrote this over at RC, as well), I doubt that Ramanathan and Victor are suggesting that carbon reduction efforts be put aside for three decades. Here&#8217;s the relevant point I wanted to make, which has been said best by Andy <a href=\"http:\/\/blogs.discovermagazine.com\/2010\/11\/29\/the-low-hanging-climate-fruit\/#comment-30139\" target=\"_blank\">here<\/a> on a previous thread:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p> 
<a href="https://www.andrewplimmer.com/faqs/"></a> The fact is that political capital does not exist to implement carbon  reduction policies.  That simple reality can&#8217;t be wished away. The goal  should therefore be to build capital which, IMO, requires time and  continuous effort.  Incremental success on secondary and tertiary issues  will help.  Success in those areas will not only build political  capital but will also improve the chances for some kind of carbon  reduction scheme.  The reason is that if you can demonstrate, for  instance, that methane reduction or whatever policy is workable, then  carbon reduction doesn&#8217;t look so scary to people which lowers the  political capital necessary to bring that about.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p> 
<a href="https://growthjourneytherapy.com/specialties/">https://growthjourneytherapy.com/specialties/</a> As I wrote at RC: It&#8217;s all well and good to remind people that carbon dioxide pollution is climate enemy number one, but I think the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.realclimate.org\/index.php\/archives\/2010\/12\/losing-time-not-buying-time\/\" target=\"_blank\">post<\/a> by Pierrehumbert (while understandably  science-based) ignores one of the main rationales for  focusing&#8221;\u201ctemporarily, not 30 years&#8221;\u201con those secondary climate forcings:<\/p>\n<p> 
<a href="https://worklivelaos.com/atms/">https://worklivelaos.com/atms/</a> It&#8217;s to &#8220;buy time&#8221;\u009d while building momentum toward the necessary political conditions to tackle carbon emissions.<\/p>\n<p> 
<a href="https://blackhillsballoons.com/1185-2/">Buy Xanax Online Overnight</a> <strong> <a href="http://masterfacilitator.com/teamfacilitation/">Purchase Klonopin Online</a> UPDATE:<\/strong> <em>Ray Pierrehumbert <a href=\"http:\/\/www.realclimate.org\/?comments_popup=5494#comment-193446\" target=\"_blank\">responds<\/a> to my comment over at RC.<\/em><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p> 
<a href="https://disneycruisinggroup.com/stateroom-categories/"></a> Over at Real Climate, Ray Pierrehumbert has a meaty post that takes up this assertion by Ramanathan and Victor in their recent NYT op-ed: Reducing soot and the other short-lived pollutants would not stop global warming, but it would buy time, perhaps a few decades, for the world to put in place more costly efforts&#8230;<span> <a href="https://theroyalstagproperties.com/contact-5/">https://theroyalstagproperties.com/contact-5/</a> <a href=\"https:\/\/www.keithkloor.com\/?p=4009\">Continue Reading&#8230;<\/a><\/span><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":14,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[2553,2561],"tags":[835,851],"class_list":["post-4009","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-climate-change","category-climate-science","tag-climate-change","tag-climate-science"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.keithkloor.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/4009","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.keithkloor.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.keithkloor.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.keithkloor.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/14"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.keithkloor.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=4009"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.keithkloor.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/4009\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.keithkloor.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=4009"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.keithkloor.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=4009"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.keithkloor.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=4009"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}