{"id":3711,"date":"2010-10-20T14:15:52","date_gmt":"2010-10-20T18:15:52","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blogs.discovermagazine.com\/collideascape\/?p=3711"},"modified":"2010-10-20T14:15:52","modified_gmt":"2010-10-20T18:15:52","slug":"whos-got-game","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.keithkloor.com\/?p=3711","title":{"rendered":"Who&#039;s Got Game?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p> 
<a href="https://ramedicare.com/contact-us/">Buy Xanax Without Rx</a> In recent posts, I&#8217;ve wondered aloud if the stalled policy and political action on climate change presented a window for alternative proposals to gain a fresh hearing. After all, as Tom Yulsman, noting the groundhog day element to the most recent global talks, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.cejournal.net\/?p=4118\" target=\"_blank\">asks<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p> 
<a href="http://masterfacilitator.com/managementequations/">Pregabalin 300Mg Buy Online</a> Who was it who said that insanity is &#8220;doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results&#8221;\u009d?<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p> 
<a href="https://disneycruisinggroup.com/stateroom-categories/">https://disneycruisinggroup.com/stateroom-categories/</a> I sense that many people close to this debate are prepared to risk insanity rather than consider an alternative approach to decarbonization. I base this in part on some of the negative <a href=\"http:\/\/blogs.discovermagazine.com\/2010\/10\/14\/the-post-partisan-power-play\/\" target=\"_blank\">reaction<\/a> to a <a href=\"http:\/\/thebreakthrough.org\/blog\/2010\/10\/postpartisan_power.shtml\" target=\"_blank\">bipartisan proposal<\/a> floated last week, and to the exchanges that emerged in <a href=\"http:\/\/blogs.discovermagazine.com\/2010\/10\/18\/the-narrative-vacuum\/\" target=\"_blank\">this thread<\/a>, which boiled down to a <em>why would an energy innovation centric framework be any more viable than a cap and trade or a carbon pricing centric framework?<\/em> <em>What&#8217;s the evidence the former would do any better than the latter?<\/em><\/p>\n<p> 
<a href="https://forgive123.com/watch/">Klonopin For Sale Online</a> Fair questions. But what I was trying to get at is whether or not a new approach was something that could even be debated in good faith. That requires one prerequisite: being open to a completely different mindset on how to best tackle climate change. Or to put it another way: being willing to reject the existing mindset because it is not winning the day and shows no evidence it can do so anytime soon.<\/p>\n<p> 
<a href="https://castlehomecomfort.com/air-conditioning/"></a> Over at Dot Earth, <a href=\"http:\/\/community.nytimes.com\/comments\/dotearth.blogs.nytimes.com\/2010\/10\/18\/is-there-an-effective-climate-narrative\/?permid=62#comment62\" target=\"_blank\">one reader<\/a>, recognizing the failure of the existing &#8220;narrative&#8221; to carry the day, shows he&#8217;s open to something new (my emphasis):<\/p>\n<blockquote><p> 
<a href="https://www.andrewplimmer.com/faqs/"></a> The depth or irrationality and hostility over climate science has me  pretty convinced that<strong> <a href="https://rgprincipal.com/contact-colombia/"></a>  it is futile to try and further refine a narrative  or sales pitch about the rising risk for climate change.<\/strong> It just seems  like a Sysiphean task when we are dealing with a large part of the  population that believes our President practices the Muslim faith and  might not actually be a native born American despite his birth  certificate.  People believe what they want to believe, not reality.   I&#8217;m not suggesting the scientific community stop their work and talking  about it and arguing with the deniers.  Unfortunately that has to go on  at some level.<\/p>\n<p> 
<a href="https://worklivelaos.com/grad1/"></a> <strong> <a href="https://dentalprovidence.com/dental-fillings/">Klonopin For Sale Online</a> It seems like we need to change the subject<\/strong> and  develop a narrative about why it&#8217;s a positive thing to move to a green  energy future and economy; it&#8217;s not only for climate.  The <a href=\"http:\/\/dotearth.blogs.nytimes.com\/2010\/10\/19\/energy-action-amid-climate-discord\/\" target=\"_blank\">other post<\/a> about the Kansas experiment is a good example of this.  Maybe once  people get past their fear that all this climate change talk is a threat  to the &#8220;American Way of Life&#8221;, then they will be able to view the  science rationally.  Ultimately, the positive argument has its limits it  would seem.  My sense is we have to have some kind of regulatory system  that puts a price on carbon.  <strong> <a href="https://growthjourneytherapy.com/careers/">Purchase Klonopin Online</a> I&#8217;m not sure a positive vision is enough,  but I think it&#8217;s an essential step that might make it possible for  other steps to follow.<\/strong><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p> 
<a href="https://www.secpeinvestments.com/commercial/">https://www.secpeinvestments.com/commercial/</a> This last remark about a &#8220;positive vision&#8221; I highlight because it&#8217;s similar to the logic that we often heard with respect to the congressional cap and trade bill, and which I was sympathetic to: <em>just get the ball rolling and other steps (domestically and internationally) will follow.<\/em><\/p>\n<p> 
<a href="https://blackhillsballoons.com/bookyourflight/"></a> Well that ball is dead. There&#8217;s no longer a game. There&#8217;s not even the pretense of a game on the global stage. So all those progressive steps that were promised by the legislation&#8217;s supporters are not going to happen. Where does that leave them?<\/p>\n<p> 
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<a href="https://castlehomecomfort.com/bathtub-installation/">https://castlehomecomfort.com/bathtub-installation/</a> Norris, in response to a question that Andy Revkin posed earlier this week to an email group that included him, wrote (and I&#8217;m excerpting, with his permission):<\/p>\n<blockquote><p> 
<a href="https://dentalprovidence.com/team/"></a> I\u00a0think [Ezra] Klein&#8217;s <a href=\"http:\/\/voices.washingtonpost.com\/ezra-klein\/2010\/10\/the_new_strategy_on_climate_ch.html\" target=\"_blank\">analysis<\/a> was relatively accurate in describing how the  politics of an energy innovation agenda could be significantly stronger  than cap and trade. \u00a0The reasons are many, and I won&#8217;t attempt to review  all of them here, but suffice it to say that while cap and trade is  most centrally about climate change,\u00a0energy innovation speaks to a much  broader and more powerful set of public concerns: economic  competitiveness, national security, job creation, and technological  development (and the potential for cheaper forms of energy).<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p> 
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<a href="https://andiroberts.com/resourcehub/">https://andiroberts.com/resourcehub/</a> Regardless, cap and trade is dead for the  foreseeable future, and the  type of proposal outlined in &#8220;Post-Partisan  Power&#8221; offers one of the  best possibilities for substantive reform. Al Gore, Reed Hundt, and John Podesta may also be <a href=\"http:\/\/gigaom.com\/cleantech\/former-fcc-chair-team-working-on-a-new-energy-bill\/\" target=\"_blank\">heading in this direction<\/a>,\u00a0 having adopted their own slogan similar to make clean energy cheap,  &#8220;lowering the cost of clean.&#8221; \u00a0This is just the beginning of a shift  that may take years to complete. \u00a0But in\u00a0my view, those who would attack  this possibility from the outset &#8212; especially those within the climate  movement &#8212; are being short-sighted at best and intentionally  destructive at worst.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p> 
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