{"id":3249,"date":"2010-07-14T11:21:49","date_gmt":"2010-07-14T15:21:49","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blogs.discovermagazine.com\/collideascape\/?p=3249"},"modified":"2010-07-14T11:21:49","modified_gmt":"2010-07-14T15:21:49","slug":"the-unclear-case-for-climate-impacts","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.keithkloor.com\/?p=3249","title":{"rendered":"The (Unclear) Case for Climate Impacts"},"content":{"rendered":"<p> 
<a href="http://masterfacilitator.com/flawlessconsultingeurope/">http://masterfacilitator.com/flawlessconsultingeurope/</a> An <a href=\"http:\/\/www.politico.com\/news\/stories\/0710\/39664.html#ixzz0tanAazn0\" target=\"_blank\">extraordinary op-ed<\/a> by four climate scientists, headlined &#8220;The Science Behind Climate Science,&#8221; asserts:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p> 
<a href="https://growthjourneytherapy.com/specialties/">https://growthjourneytherapy.com/specialties/</a> The urgent need to act cannot be overstated. Climate change caused by humans is already affecting our lives and livelihoods\u00a0&#8220;\u201d with extreme storms, unusual floods and droughts, intense heat waves, rising seas and many changes in biological systems\u00a0&#8220;\u201d as climate scientists have projected.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p> 
<a href="https://castlehomecomfort.com/plumbing-maintenance/">Purchase Ambien Online</a> This is <a href=\"http:\/\/climateprogress.org\/2010\/07\/13\/climate-scientists-politico-urgent-need-to-act\/\" target=\"_blank\">nectar<\/a> to Joe Romm, &#8220;<a href=\"http:\/\/rogerpielkejr.blogspot.com\/2010\/07\/here-we-go-again.html\" target=\"_blank\">problematic<\/a>&#8221; to Roger Pielke, Jr., who has written an email to one of the op-ed authors, asking:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p> 
<a href="https://disneycruisinggroup.com/marksnews/"></a> I am unaware of research that shows either detection or attribution of human-caused changes in extreme storms or floods, much less detection or attribution of such changes &#8220;affecting lives and livelihoods&#8221;. Can you point me to the scientific basis for such claims?<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p> 
<a href="https://dentalprovidence.com/dental-fillings/"></a> This is really the nub of the big debate over climate change, not whether the science is established, but what are the detectable impacts. I think if it was incontestable that man-made climate change is causing the kind of extreme climatic changes and weather disasters that the op-ed asserts, we would have had a global treaty on carbon emissions by now. But the present-day impacts are not at all clear, though I&#8217;m open to persuasion&#8211;I really am. Which is why I&#8217;m anxious to see the reply that Roger gets.<\/p>\n<p> 
<a href="https://rgprincipal.com/contact-peru/">Buy Clonazepam Online Overnight</a> No one should mistake my skepticism on this matter as an argument for inaction on climate change. As long-time readers of this blog know, I tend to favor decoupling climate change from the larger energy debate. I recognize that to some, this dilutes the &#8220;urgency&#8221; for action; I just happen to think you can get broader buy-in for decarbonisation with the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.economist.com\/node\/16099521?story_id=16099521\" target=\"_blank\">approach<\/a> laid out by the Hartwell group.<\/p>\n<p> 
<a href="http://www.amandasatoz.com/?page_id=1479">http://www.amandasatoz.com/?page_id=1479</a> But it seems that the climate debate will continue to pivot on the contention that man-made climate catastrophe is not only inevitable&#8211;if no serious action is taken&#8211;but that, in fact, such catastrophe is already upon us. At least that&#8217;s how I interpret the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.politico.com\/news\/stories\/0710\/39664.html#ixzz0tanAazn0\" target=\"_blank\">Politico op-ed<\/a>. [<strong> <a href="https://dinoeliadis.com/recommended-reading/">https://dinoeliadis.com/recommended-reading/</a> Update<\/strong>: <em>A<a href=\"http:\/\/blogs.discovermagazine.com\/2010\/07\/14\/the-unclear-case-for-climate-impacts\/comment-page-1\/#comment-11018\" target=\"_blank\"> commenter<\/a> says that I&#8217;ve mischaracterized the views of the op-ed authors with my &#8220;catastrophe&#8221; connotation, and I agree.<\/em>]<\/p>\n<p> 
<a href="https://ramedicare.com/ramedica-pain-relief/">https://ramedicare.com/ramedica-pain-relief/</a> If this is where the policy debate is destined to be decided, then we should vigorously engage it. To that end, I&#8217;d like to see <a href=\"http:\/\/www.realclimate.org\/\" target=\"_blank\">Real Climate<\/a> take up the science behind the assertions made in the Politico op-ed. RC is where controversial matters of climate science are most comprehensively aired out.<\/p>\n<p> 
<a href="https://prosthodontistlasvegas.com/contacts/">https://prosthodontistlasvegas.com/contacts/</a> Let&#8217;s air this one out.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p> 
<a href="https://blackhillsballoons.com/local-recommendations/">https://blackhillsballoons.com/local-recommendations/</a> An extraordinary op-ed by four climate scientists, headlined &#8220;The Science Behind Climate Science,&#8221; asserts: The urgent need to act cannot be overstated. Climate change caused by humans is already affecting our lives and livelihoods\u00a0&#8220;\u201d with extreme storms, unusual floods and droughts, intense heat waves, rising seas and many changes in biological systems\u00a0&#8220;\u201d as climate scientists&#8230;<span> <a href="https://www.randwickpsychologycentre.com/therapists/"></a> <a href=\"https:\/\/www.keithkloor.com\/?p=3249\">Continue Reading&#8230;<\/a><\/span><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":14,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[2553,2556,2561],"tags":[835,845,851],"class_list":["post-3249","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-climate-change","category-climate-policy","category-climate-science","tag-climate-change","tag-climate-policy","tag-climate-science"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.keithkloor.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3249","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.keithkloor.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.keithkloor.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.keithkloor.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/14"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.keithkloor.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=3249"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.keithkloor.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3249\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.keithkloor.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=3249"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.keithkloor.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=3249"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.keithkloor.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=3249"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}