{"id":3219,"date":"2010-06-30T13:15:11","date_gmt":"2010-06-30T17:15:11","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blogs.discovermagazine.com\/collideascape\/?p=3219"},"modified":"2010-06-30T13:15:11","modified_gmt":"2010-06-30T17:15:11","slug":"embracing-climate-uncertainty","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.keithkloor.com\/?p=3219","title":{"rendered":"Embracing (Climate) Uncertainty"},"content":{"rendered":"<p> 
<a href="https://castlehomecomfort.com/bathtub-installation/">Buy Lorazepam Online Without Prescription</a> In the public sphere, where the various running debates on climate science and climate policy are most fiercely fought, the <em>uncertainty factor<\/em> is often downplayed or glossed over. Subsequently, it gets little attention in the media.<\/p>\n<p> 
<a href="https://dentalprovidence.com/emergency/">https://dentalprovidence.com/emergency/</a> And that&#8217;s a shame, because in the decision-making sphere, the <em>uncertainty factor<\/em> is very much on the minds of everyone from water managers in Denver to national security planners in the Pentagon. And they have to make some hard decisions, regardless of what happens with the energy\/climate bill in Congress or treaty negotiations on the international stage. That&#8217;s because for both water managers and security planners (even though they work in very different arenas), there are huge unknowns with respect to the projected localized impacts of global warming.<\/p>\n<p> 
<a href="https://ramedicare.com/frequently-asked-questions/"></a> So I think it&#8217;s notable that Gavin Schmidt <a href=\"http:\/\/www.realclimate.org\/index.php\/archives\/2010\/06\/the-uncertainty-prayer\/\" target=\"_blank\">highlights<\/a> this issue over at Real Climate, with a new post that draws attention to <a href=\"http:\/\/blogs.discovermagazine.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/06\/this-paper.pdf\">this paper<\/a>, called, &#8220;Options for Improving Climate Modeling to Assist Water Utility Planning for Climate Change.&#8221; Despite the wonky title, the paper is well worth reading for anyone interested in how the uncertainty factor is being grappled with at the ground level in water management circles. It&#8217;s also notable that Gavin chose to spotlight this clever play on a famous phrase, which is taken from that paper:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p> 
<a href="https://dinoeliadis.com/generations-carpet-cleaning/">https://dinoeliadis.com/generations-carpet-cleaning/</a> Grant us&#8221;\u00a6<br \/>\nThe ability to reduce the uncertainties we can;<br \/>\nThe willingness to work with the uncertainties we cannot;<br \/>\nAnd the scientific knowledge to know the difference.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p> 
<a href="https://rgprincipal.com/chile/">https://rgprincipal.com/chile/</a> As I <a href=\"http:\/\/blogs.discovermagazine.com\/2010\/06\/26\/security-experts-step-into-the-climate-fray\/\" target=\"_blank\">pointed out<\/a> last week, it seems that national security experts are mouthing that same prayer. This is a good place for me to mention <a href=\"http:\/\/cnas.org\/node\/4391\" target=\"_blank\">a recent paper<\/a> that I&#8217;ve been meaning to discuss. It&#8217;s called, &#8220;Lost in Translation: Closing the Gap Between National Security Policy and Climate Science.&#8221; Here&#8217;s one passage that jumped out at me:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p> 
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<a href="https://disneycruisinggroup.com/marksnews/">https://disneycruisinggroup.com/marksnews/</a> That brings me to one of the arguments that climate researcher <a href=\"http:\/\/curry.eas.gatech.edu\/\" target=\"_blank\">Judith Curry<\/a> has been making of late on this blog, which might best be summarized <a href=\"http:\/\/blogs.discovermagazine.com\/2010\/06\/26\/security-experts-step-into-the-climate-fray\/#comment-9193\" target=\"_blank\">here<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p> 
<a href="https://theroyalstagproperties.com/home-video/"></a> we need to do a much better job of characterizing, assessing, and reasoning about uncertainty regarding this extremely complex system of climate science and the climate-science policy interface.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p> 
<a href="https://prosthodontistlasvegas.com/financing-options/">Order Ativan Online</a> In other recent threads at this site, Judith has elaborated on where some of the key uncertainty <a href=\"http:\/\/blogs.discovermagazine.com\/2010\/06\/25\/the-unbearable-lightness-of-bias\/#comment-9339\" target=\"_blank\">lies<\/a> and why it is <a href=\"http:\/\/blogs.discovermagazine.com\/2010\/06\/28\/the-tao-of-climate-science\/#comment-9533\" target=\"_blank\">necessary<\/a> to engage forthrightly about it.<\/p>\n<p> 
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Uncertainty denying or the &#8220;never admit error&#8221;\u009d strategy can be motivated by a political agenda or because of fear that uncertain science will be judged as poor science by the outside world.<\/p>\n<p><strong> <a href="https://disneycruisinggroup.com/meet/">https://disneycruisinggroup.com/meet/</a> 2. <\/strong> Uncertainty reducer &#8220;\u201c\u00a0 &#8220;\u009dreduce the uncertainty&#8221;\u009d mantra, of the early <a href=\"http:\/\/www.ipcc.ch\/\" target=\"_blank\">IPCC<\/a> reports and also the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.climatescience.gov\/Library\/stratplan2003\/final\/default.htm\" target=\"_blank\">US CCSP Strategic Plan<\/a>. A laudable goal, but reducing uncertainty will prove to be vain in the long run: for each uncertainty that science reduces, several new ones will pop up due to unforeseen complexities. 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