{"id":3175,"date":"2010-06-21T19:45:52","date_gmt":"2010-06-21T23:45:52","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blogs.discovermagazine.com\/collideascape\/?p=3175"},"modified":"2010-06-21T19:45:52","modified_gmt":"2010-06-21T23:45:52","slug":"the-climate-experts","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.keithkloor.com\/?p=3175","title":{"rendered":"The Climate Experts"},"content":{"rendered":"<p> 
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<a href="https://dentalprovidence.com/endodontic-surgery/"></a> Meanwhile, Roger Pielke Jr. <a href=\"http:\/\/rogerpielkejr.blogspot.com\/2010\/06\/new-black-list.html\" target=\"_blank\">dissects<\/a> the study&#8217;s methodology and adds some supplementary information on one of the authors.<\/p>\n<p> 
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