{"id":2350,"date":"2010-02-05T08:14:04","date_gmt":"2010-02-05T13:14:04","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blogs.discovermagazine.com\/collideascape\/?p=2350"},"modified":"2010-02-05T08:14:04","modified_gmt":"2010-02-05T13:14:04","slug":"disparate-anti-science-forces","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.keithkloor.com\/?p=2350","title":{"rendered":"Disparate Anti-Science Forces"},"content":{"rendered":"<p> 
<a href="https://dinoeliadis.com/city-of-largo/">https://dinoeliadis.com/city-of-largo/</a> In case you missed the big news about the Lancet retraction, Daniel Drezner has <a href=\"http:\/\/drezner.foreignpolicy.com\/posts\/2010\/02\/03\/politics_and_science_sitting_as_far_away_from_the_tree_as_possible\" target=\"_blank\">the best meta post<\/a>. He hints at the parallels between the anti-vaccine nuts, GMO opponents and climate change skeptics (strange bedfellows, aye?).<\/p>\n<p> 
<a href="https://andiroberts.com/complexity-leadership/">Purchase Klonopin Online</a> I see it too, but I believe irrationality underlies the anti-vaccine movement while ideology drives the other two. Regardless, Drezner doesn&#8217;t see the forces of reason winning out anytime soon, especially with the anti-vaccine crowd. He notes the response to the Lancet retraction in a <a href=\"http:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2010\/02\/03\/health\/research\/03lancet.html\" target=\"_blank\">New York Times article<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p> 
<a href="https://alpineinterface.com/swiss-mountain-huts/"></a> the retraction may do little to tarnish Dr. Wakefield&#8217;s reputation among parents&#8217; groups in the United States. Despite a wealth of scientific studies that have failed to find any link between vaccines and autism, the parents fervently believe that their children&#8217;s mental problems resulted from vaccinations&#8230;.<\/p>\n<p> 
<a href="https://www.secpeinvestments.com/home/"></a> Jim Moody, a director of SafeMinds,\u00a0a parents&#8217; group that advances the notion the vaccines cause autism, said the retraction would strengthen Dr. Wakefield&#8217;s credibility with many parents.<\/p>\n<p> 
<a href="https://worklivelaos.com/img_8751/"></a> &#8220;Attacking scientists and attacking doctors is dangerous,&#8221;\u009d he said. &#8220;This is about suppressing research, and it will fuel the controversy by bringing it all up again.&#8221;\u009d<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p> 
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<a href="https://blackhillsballoons.com/1185-2/">Buy Xanax Online Overnight</a> In <a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/0691096422?ie=UTF8&amp;tag=daniewdrezn-20&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325&amp;creativeASIN=0691096422\" target=\"_blank\">my prior research<\/a>, I&#8217;ve seen this kind of dynamic play out in the debates over genetically modified foods, and we&#8217;re still seeing it play out in the debate over climate change.\u00a0 Furthermore, because scientists are not perfect, it&#8217;s becoming easier to point out <a href=\"http:\/\/www.guardian.co.uk\/environment\/2010\/jan\/20\/ipcc-himalayan-glaciers-mistake\" target=\"_blank\">flaws<\/a> that don&#8217;t necessarily compromise the basic science but do tarnish the image of scientists as neutral arbiters of fact.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p> 
<a href="https://www.andrewplimmer.com/andrew-plimmer/"></a> In a separate vein, Orac <a href=\"http:\/\/scienceblogs.com\/insolence\/2010\/02\/how_not_to_report_science_and_medical_ne.php\" target=\"_blank\">thrashes<\/a> the broadcast media for its coverage of the Lancet retraction. Climate advocates will surely feel his pain. I&#8217;d be curious to hear what <a href=\"http:\/\/ksjtracker.mit.edu\/\" target=\"_blank\">Science Journalism Tracker<\/a> and CJR&#8217;s <a href=\"http:\/\/www.cjr.org\/the_observatory\/\" target=\"_blank\">The Observatory<\/a> think of the press coverage of this huge story. So far, neither outlet has weighed in.<\/p>\n<p> 
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<a href="https://rgprincipal.com/mexico/"></a> To be fair, it&#8217;s true that individual scientists <em>aren&#8217;t <\/em>really completely neutral &#8212; especially when it comes to politicized debates.\u00a0 The scientific method, on\u00a0the other hand, is\u00a0about as neutral as you can get.\u00a0 But that&#8217;s not as sexy\u00a0a sell to the public.<\/p>\n<p> 
<a href="https://growthjourneytherapy.com/contact/"></a> <em>Question to readers<\/em>:\u00a0 is there a way to make scientific consensus more acceptable to a public that doesn&#8217;t want to hear the results?<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p> 
<a href="https://dentalprovidence.com/crowns/">Order Zopiclone Online</a> That&#8217;s really worth mulling over. But the problem is that no amount of sexing up of science will work with subcultures that are religiously, ideologically, or irrationally predisposed to disregard scientific consensus on certain issues of importance to them. That means that creationists,\u00a0 anti-vaccine activists, GMO opponents, and hardcore climate change skeptics, to name just a few groups that have fixed, unalterable views,\u00a0 cannot be persuaded by reason, no matter how it&#8217;s packaged.<\/p>\n<p> 
<a href="https://prosthodontistlasvegas.com/financing-options/">Order Ativan Online</a> <strong> <a href="https://theroyalstagproperties.com/accommodations/"></a> UPDATE 2:<\/strong> Charlie Petit over at Science Journalism Tracker acknowledges my prod and puts up a <a href=\"http:\/\/ksjtracker.mit.edu\/2010\/02\/05\/lots-of-ink-lancet-withdraws-vaccine-autism-paper-fueling-celebration-and-condemnation-and-one-suspects-few-converts-to-reason\/\" target=\"_blank\">real nice round-up<\/a> of press coverage. Definitely worth checking out. It&#8217;s fair to speculate that this story will one day take on very tragic proportions, given how many thousands of parents have not vaccinated their children since that 1998 Lancet study was published.<\/p>\n<p> 
<a href="https://disneycruisinggroup.com/stateroom-categories/"></a> Now, if Curtis Brainard over at CJR&#8217;s The Observatory also takes my prod, he might write a post similar to <a href=\"http:\/\/cjr.org\/the_observatory\/mia_on_the_ipcc.php?page=1\" target=\"_blank\">the excellent one<\/a> he recently did on the recent IPCC media coverage (or lack thereof) in the U.S. He thus would sniff out all the potential autism\/science angles just waiting to be covered, such as <a href=\"http:\/\/scienceblogs.com\/insolence\/2010\/02\/how_not_to_report_science_and_medical_ne.php#comment-2249471\" target=\"_blank\">this one<\/a>, from a parent of an autistic child, who commented on the Lancet retraction news at a blog site:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p> 
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<a href="https://theroyalstagproperties.com/our-menu/"></a> At the same blog, another commenter <a href=\"http:\/\/scienceblogs.com\/insolence\/2010\/02\/how_not_to_report_science_and_medical_ne.php#comment-2249705\" target=\"_blank\">writes<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p> 
<a href="https://www.andrewplimmer.com/7-day-shift/"></a> I know what you mean&#8211;I went through some of this with my youngest child&#8217;s health issues and was completely ostracized by my new-agey community for taking the &#8220;pharma&#8221; path with my child. Many of the people who post here are scientists and have not faced this in the same way an average mother might.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p> 
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